ADA
Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:18 PM
Name: Cynthia
Question: A supervisor informs HR that a hearing impaired employee has reached the maximum level of attendance points allowed. The supervisor is recommending termination. How do you handle it? Thank you.
Response:
Cynthia,
You do not state that the employee has received any type of corrective action at this point. To summarily terminate any employee – whether the employee is disabled or not is not fair to the individual as they were never given an opportunity to correct their behavior. If you are using a point system, there should still be some type of progressive discipline in which an employee is notified of that they are reaching what would be considered an unsatisfactory attendance record. Additionally, depending upon the State you are in, you will have a better chance of winning an unemployment hearing if you have a record of progressive discipline for the attendance problems.
I am assuming you are asking this because of the fact that the employee has a disability. The Americans with Disability Act requires that an employer make reasonable accommodations for a person with a disability so they can meet the expectations of the job. It does not require an employer to lessen the performance and attendance standards for a person with a disability.
With that being said, however, there are a few questions I have. Is this individual required to go to a doctor for his/her condition on a regular basis? If so, do these doctor’s visits affect his/her attendance and add to the number of points the individual receives under your attendance recordkeeping system? If your answer to each of these questions is yes, then you may want to reconsider termination as allowing the employee to have an additional couple of days to attend to medical responsibilities could be considered a reasonable accommodation?
When making these types of decisions, try to put yourself in the position of a member of a jury in a discrimination lawsuit. If the employee never received a disciplinary notice and is held to the same standards as non-disabled employees, would you as a member of a jury decide in favor of the disabled employee or the employer?
You did not give me a lot of facts to go on here so I am doing a lot of speculating. So if you could supply me with a few more facts, I am sure we can help you. Do not hesitate to contact me with additional information or if we can be of additional help to you.
Kind regards,
Bob McKenzie
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COMPENSATION
QUESTION
FROM: SHARON
INDUSTRY: HEALTHCARE
Hi,
Bob. We've
spoken
a
couple
of
times. Your
newsletter
came
while
I
was
doing
research...for
suggestions
for
a
competitive
way
to
offer
incentives
for
managers
who
fill
in
at
another
location
until
an
opening
is
filled. Basically,
doing
2
jobs
at
one
time...their
own
and
the
one
of
the
vacant
position. Currently
we
think
we'd
pay
(in
addition
to
salary)
a
daily
rate
at
the
2nd
location,
based
on
the
annual
salary
of
the
open
position
divided
by
2080
x
8
hours. Thoughts? Please
and
thank
you.
RESPONSE:
Sharon,
I
am
making
an
assumption
that
these
are
professional
or
management
positions
and
admire
your
desire
to
offer
an
incentive
for
this
situation. However,
I
think
your
plan
is
a
bit
too
rich
as
I
do
not
believe
it
is
necessary
to
pay
the
entire
amount
of
the
salary
of
the
vacant
position. It
is
always
more
difficult
to
do
two
jobs,
but
if
there
is
a
need
for
both
positions
in
your
organization,
then
it
would
be
impossible
for
one
person
to
perform
all
that
is
required
of
both
jobs. In
the
case
you
describe,
the
best
you
can
expect
is
for
someone
to
oversee
the
most
vital
tasks
of
both
positions
and
leaving
the
less
important,
yet
necessary
items,
undone.
My
recommendation
is
to
look
at
both
positions
and
jointly
set
short
term
goals
for
both. Give
an
up-front
incentive
such
as
a
temporary
15%
or
20%
salary
increase
and
then
offer
a
cash
bonus
upon
meeting
or
exceeding
the
goals
or
standards
being
met
while
working
both
jobs.
When
the
replacement
is
found,
then
pay
a
bonus
based
upon
meeting
the
performance
criteria. This
could
be
a
lump
sum
and
the
target
amount
should
be
agreed
to
up
front.
If
these
are
professional
and
management
positions,
it
could
take
in
excess
of
3
months
to
find
the
right
person. This
makes
for
a
good
opportunity
to
take
your
time
to
ensure
that
the
best
person
for
the
position
is
found.
Contact
me
directly
if
you
have
any
questions
or
if
I
can
be
of
additional
assistance.
Thanks
for
asking
Bob.
Kind
regards
Bob
McKenzie,
President
From:
sharon
To:
bobm@mckenziehr.com
Subject:
RE:
Ask
Bob
Thanks
so
much,
Bob. I
always
appreciate
your
insights. Take
care,
Sharon
QUESTION
FROM: MARLA
INDUSTRY: HEALTHCARE
What
are
the
pros
and
cons
with
Merit
Pay. and
what
are
the
alternatives? Do
most
companies
in
Jacksonville
use
merit
pay
or
another
form
of
reward?
RESPONSE:
Marla,
I
hope
all
is
well.
I
love
these
kinds
of
questions
because
there
is
no
easy
answer.
I
am
a
firm
believer
in
merit
pay
systems. However,
to
be
effective,
they
must
be
implemented
properly
with
a
large
enough
deference
in
either
percentage
or
dollar
volume
raises
between
the
higher
achievers
in
your
organization
and
the
mediocre
performers. With
smaller
merit
increase
budgets,
there
is
a
smaller
pie
to
split
among
all
of
the
employees.
There
are
a
couple
of
ways
to
implement
a
merit
pay
plan.
One
is
to
equate
certain
scores
on
a
performance
appraisal
to
a
corresponding
salary
increase. For
example,
if
the
performance
appraisal
is
on
a
1
through
5
scale
with
1
being
unacceptable
performance,
2
being
needs
improvement,
3
is
meets
standard,
4
exceeds
standards
and
5
being
walks
on
water,
your
distribution
of
increases
may
look
something
like
this
(assuming
a
4%
merit
increase
budget):
- Overall
score of
1 or
2 -
no increase.
- Overall
score of
3 -
2% increase.
- Overall
score of
4 -
4.5% increase.
- Overall
score of
5 -
6.5% increase.
A
second
way
is
to
be
a
little
more
sophisticated
with
the
distribution
of
increases
depending
on
the
employee's
performance
AND
position
in
the
salary
range.
Assuming
that
the
midpoint
of
the
range
is
the
rate
at
which
an
employee
performing
the
job
is
fully
functional,
any
payment
beyond
the
midpoint
should
be
slowed
down
a
bit. Using
the
above
performance
appraisal
distribution,
two
employees
scoring
a
4
with
one
paid
below
the
midpoint
and
the
other
above
the
midpoint
would
get
different
percentage
increases. The
one
above
the
midpoint
may
get
a
3%
increase
whereas
the
person
below
the
midpoint
may
get
a
5%
increase. Another
way
to
look
at
this
is
the
dollar
amount
of
the
increase. Even
though
the
percentages
are
different,
both
may
get
a
$1,000
per
year
increase.
Another
way
is
to
tell
the
department
manager
that
she/he
has “x” dollars
to
split
among
her/his
employees
-
but
must
justify
each
with
a
corresponding
performance
appraisal.
Merit
pay
systems
reward
higher
performers
and,
therefore,
are
good
for
the
organization.
The
downside
of
merit
pay
systems
include
the
difficulty
many
managers
have
in
quantifying
performance
standards,
giving
realistic
reviews,
differences
in
managers’ definitions
of
performance
factors,
and
one
manager
being
a
tough
reviewer
and
another
being
a
softie.
To
be
effective,
the
standards
of
performance
for
each
position
and
each
performance
factor
should
be
defined
prior
to
the
review
period.
Other
pay
plans
include
across
the
board
or
cost
of
living
increases
(a
big
YUCK
as
far
as
I
am
concerned).
You
can
also
have
step
systems
in
which
an
employee
gets
a
specified
raise
either
over
a
specific
period
of
time
or
by
accomplishing
certain
objectives.
There
are
skilled-based
pay
systems
and
knowledge-based
systems
that
pay
people
differently
depending
on
what
skills
or
knowledge
the
employee
brings
to
the
organization.
As
for
what
employers
in
Jacksonville
do,
I
would
venture
to
guess
that
most
say
they
have
a
merit
system,
but
as
to
how
well
they
are
implemented
and
delivered
to
the
employees
is
another
story.
Thanks
for
the
questions
and
I
apologize
for
such
a
long-winded
answer.
You
know
where
to
find
me
if
you
need
help
with
this.
Kind
regards,
Bob
McKenzie
SPHR,
President
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DRUG
TESTING
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QUESTION
FROM: MARILEE
INDUSTRY: ENVIRONMENTAL
ENGINEERING
Is
there
any
law
that
requires
us
to
offer
Employee
Assistance/Treatment
for
a
positive
drug
result? I
am
working
on
a
update
to
our
handbook,
and
we
would
like
to
state "No
Tolerance" period.
RESPONSE:
Marilee,
The
only
law
that
you
may
have
to
be
concerned
about
has
to
do
with
anyone
who
drives
a
large
truck – over
25,000
lbs. If
this
is
the
case,
then
you
have
to
give
them
some
information
on
an
EAP
or
substance
abuse
program. However,
you
are
still
able
to
terminate – but
still
must
give
them
info
on
a
program. This
can
be
as
simple
as
ripping
out
the
page
in
the
yellow
pages
on
substance
abuse
facilities.
So
the
answer
to
your
question
is
that
you
can
implement
a
drug
free
workplace
program
with
a
zero
tolerance
for
any
positive
testing. If
you
want
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
Florida
Drug
Free
Workplace
Act,
you
must
give
your
employees
60
days
advanced
notice
of
your
intention
on
changing
the
policy.
Let
me
know
if
this
answers
your
question
or
if
we
can
be
of
further
assistance.
Kind
regards,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
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EMPLOYMENT
AT WILL
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QUESTION
FROM: BRIAN,
CSO (CHIEF SACKING OFFICER)
INDUSTRY: PRINTING
Can
I
can
somebody
whenever
and
for
whatever
I
want?
RESPONSE:
Dear
CSO:
Your
question
cannot
be
answered
by
saying “yes” or “no” because
the
answer
is “yes” AND “no.” The
employment
at
will
doctrine
states
that
the
employment
relationship
is
for
no
specific
period
of
time
and
can
be
ended
by
either
party
at
any
time,
for
any
reason
or
for
no
reason.
HOWEVER
(AND
IT
IS
A
BIG
HOWEVER),
the
concept
of "employment
at
will" has
been
watered
down
to
the
point
that
it
has
little
meaning
anymore. For
example,
an
employer
violates
public
policy
when
terminating
an
employee
who
is
serving
on
jury
duty
or
serves
as
a
witness
in
court.
Discrimination
laws,
whistleblowing
laws,
retaliation
for
filing
a
workers’ compensation
claim,
the
Family
and
Medical
Leave
Act
and
other
employment
related
legislation
have
made
the
concept
virtually
useless.
There
have
been
a
few
occasions
in
which
we
have
utilized
the
concept
to "can" people,
but
only
after
reviewing
all
of
the
potential
risks.
All
of
this
legislation
has
also
increased
employee
awareness
of
their
so-called
rights. Our
experience
indicates
that
when
employees
are
terminated
for
no
cause
or
feel
that
the
employer's
treatment
of
them
is
unfair,
they
will
want
to
retaliate. We
are
working
on
three
EEOC
charges
of
discrimination
now
that
have
no
merit
-
but
were
filed
by
the
terminated
employee
as
a
way
to
get
back
at
the
company
for
firing
them.
Therefore,
we
recommend
that
employers
stop
thinking
about
employment
at
will
in
their
dealings
with
employees
and
treat
them
with
fairness,
consistency,
respect
and
dignity. Keep
the
employment
at
will
statements
on
your
applications,
offer
letters
and
handbook,
because
you
may
have
to
revert
to
it
from
time
to
time. But
use
it
very
rarely.
Sorry
for
the
long
answer. Here's
a
link
to
a
great
article
about
employment
at
will.
http://www.mckenziehr.com/enews/august2004.htm
Let
me
know
if
you
need
additional
information.
Regards,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
From:
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To:
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Subject:
RE:
Ask
Bob
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EMPLOYEE
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QUESTION
FROM: DIANE
INDUSTRY: NON-PROFIT
A
new
employee
has
just
joined
our
company
this
week.
The
two
other
people
in
the
three-
person
department
where
he
is
working
are
taking
offense
to
the "cigarette
odor". They
are
non-smokers
and,
evidently,
he
does
smoke.
The
supervisor
wants
to
give
him
the
option
of
not
having
a
cigarette
odor
or
being
let
go. What
kind
of
trouble
could
we
be
in
if
he
is
let
go
under
these
circumstances?
Thank
you.
RESPONSE:
Diane,
You
should
not
have
any
issue
if
the
employee
smells
of
cigarettes
and
he
is
terminated
for
this. Here's
another
option,
though. Instruct
the
smoker
to
wash
his
hands
after
he
smokes. Most
of
the
smoke
odor
collects
on
the
fingers
and
hands
of
the
smoker. This
will
not
totally
eliminate
the
smell,
but
should
reduce
it
considerably.
See
how
this
goes. If
he
has
a
problem
with
this
alternative,
he
is
obviously
one
of
those
rude
smokers
that
we
all
hate.
Approach
him
with
this
option
and
see
how
it
works. If
there
are
still
complaints
after
he
does
this,
let's
cross
that
bridge
when
we
get
to
it.
Good
luck
Bob
McKenzie,
President
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FMLA
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QUESTION
FROM: DIANE
INDUSTRY: COMMUNITY
BASED NON-PROFIT
We
have
a
person
on
FMLA
who
has
almost
enough
time
to
cover
the
complete
12
weeks. While
he
has
been
out
the
payroll
department
has
him
accruing
sick/vacation
time. In
the
FMLA
policy
as
I
read
it,
it
states, "Although
benefits
will
not
accrue
during
any
leave,
benefits
accrued
before
leave
will
not
be
affected
except
that
the
Company
may
require
that
any
accrued
paid
vacation,
paid
sick
leave,
etc.... “ From
what
I
read
is
it
correct
to
say
that
a
person
on
FMLA
(even
though
they
have
a
large
sick/vacation
balance)
and
using
sick/vacation
time
should not accrue
sick/vacation
while
on
FMLA? Thanks
for
your
answer.
RESPONSE:
Diane,
This
is
sometimes
a
very
confusing
thing
to
understand
because
FMLA
is
an
unpaid
period
of
time. I
always
like
to
say
there
are
three
buckets:
1)
FMLA;
2)
Vacation; and
3)
Sick or other paid
time off benefits.
The
FMLA
is
always
unpaid. However,
you,
as
the
company,
can
require
employees
to
use
sick
and
vacation
time
while
on
FMLA
and
your
policy
should
state
this. The
paid
time
used
by
the
employee
on
FMLA
still
falls
under
your
regular
sick
and
vacation
policy.
If
you
normally
allow
employees
to
accrue
time
off
benefits
while
on
vacation,
then
they
should
accrue
the
same
amount
of
time
off
while
on
FMLA. If
the
employee
you
are
questioning
had
12
weeks
of
leave
available
and
you
continue
to
accrue
time
for
an
employee
on
two
weeks
of
vacation
to
go
skiing
in
the
Alps,
then
you
must
also
accrue
time
when
an
employee
is
on
FMLA. (I
am
making
the
assumption
that
you
do
not
stop
the
time
off
accrual
when
someone
is
out
sick
for
a
week
or
on
vacation.)
If
this
is
the
case,
then
the
only
time
that
vacation
or
sick
time
accrual
should
not
be
given
to
the
employee
is
after
the
vacation
and
sick
time
is
exhausted
while
on
FMLA.
Have
a
great
rest
of
your
week.
Kind
regards,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
QUESTION
FROM: BONNIE
INDUSTRY: RESIDENTIAL
BUILDERS
I
have
an
employee
who
has
been
out
on
worker's
compensation
since
6/16/05
due
to
an
OJT
accident. She
was
released
to
part-time
duty
9/23/05
and
is
still
only
working
1/2
days. She
has
exhausted
her
FMLA
leave. How
long
must
we
keep
her
on
w/c
status
as
a
pt
worker
when
her
position
requires
full-time
capability. Her
position
is
that
of
sales
trainer
and
we
are
now
reaching
critical
mass
in
our
training
requirements
as
well
as
needing
to
hire
additional
staff
to
handle
our
training
requirements. Please
advise. Thank
you.
RESPONSE:
Bonnie,
You
are
under
no
obligation
to
return
this
person
to
the
same
job
if
she
was
released
to
return
to
work
on
a
part-time
basis. Even
with
FMLA,
if
the
individual
is
on
a
reduced
schedule
leave,
you
have
the
option
of
transferring
her
to
another
position
during
the
period
of
time
she
is
on
the
reduced
schedule.
Look
within
your
workplace
to
see
if
there
is
another
job
she
can
do
that
is
not
as
critical
as
the
one
she
holds
now
and
transfer
her
to
that
job. Since
she
is
a
sales
trainer,
can
you
have
her
put
together
the
material
and
schedule
the
training
sessions
while
having
another
employee
do
the
training? Look
at
re-arranging
some
of
the
functions
others
do
to
see
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
have
her
add
value
while
giving
the
actual
training
duties
to
another
individual.
If
nothing
is
available
in
the
sales
training
department,
look
at
another
department
within
your
organization
where
she
can
do
part-time
work.
Under
workers’ comp
rules,
you
are
also
under
no
obligation
to
hire
her
for
light
or
part-time
duty
if
you
do
not
have
that
type
of
work
available. The
problem
with
this is
if
you
tell
her
you
only
have
full-time
work
available
and
she
cannot
work
a
full-time
schedule,
she
will
receive
more
in
the
form
of
workers
comp
payments,
which
you
will
pay
for
in
higher
premiums
later.
Now
that
her
FMLA
has
expired,
you
do
not
have
to
offer
her
the
same
position
if
she
is
not
able
to
perform
the
essential
functions
of
the
job
-
being
available
for
a
full-time
schedule
sounds
like
it
is
essential
to
your
business.
Sometimes,
you
have
to
be
a
little
more
creative
in
coming
up
with
ways
to
make
these
situations
work
for
you.
I
hope
this
helps. Let
me
know
if
I
can
be
of
additional
help.
Bob
McKenzie,
President
From:
Bonnie
To:
bobm@mckenziehr.com
Subject:
RE:
Ask
Bob
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
quick
response,
it
is
very
much
appreciated.
You've
given
me
some
excellent
information
to
enable
us
to
move
forward
with
our
planning
for
the
New
Year
with
our
training
department.
Have
a
great
holiday
season
and
best
regards,
QUESTION
FROM: JOHN
INDUSTRY: MORTGAGE
LENDING
In
determining
exemption
from
FMLA
based
upon
having
under
50
employees, would
we
need
to
include
employees
that
are
registered
as
being
licensed
employees
of
our
Corporate
branch
address,
but
physically
work
from
other
locations?
RESPONSE:
John,
For
FMLA
purposes,
it
is
the
location
in
which
the
employee
actually
works.
So,
in
your
case,
if
one
of
your
salespeople
is
licensed
in
Palm
Coast
and
works
out
of
an
office
in
Fort
Lauderdale,
the
Fort
Lauderdale
location
is
used
for
determining
the
50
employees
within
a
75
miles.
Hope
this
answers
the
question.
Thanks,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
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I-9
FORMS
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QUESTION
FROM: CHRISTINE
INDUSTRY: VEGETATION
CONTROL
I
was
told
that
I
should
not
keep
a
copy
of
an
employee’s
picture
ID
in
his
employment
folder.
Is
this
true?
Also
we
have
a
lot
of
immigrants
that
work
for
our
second
company
and
I
was
told
to
keep
their
I-9's
in
a
separate
file.
Should
I
keep
their
ID's
in
that
file
or
their
employment
file?
Thank
you!
RESPONSE:
Christine,
Keeping
a
picture
of
an
employee
in
a
file
could
be
a
problem
because
it
clearly
shows
the
race
of
the
individual. The
thought
is
if
a
manager
is
looking
through a
file
to
consider
a
person
for
a
promotion,
the
decision
must
be
based
on
criteria
other
than
race.
Personally,
I
think
this
is
ridiculous
(because
upon
interviewing
someone,
you
should
be
able
to
determine
the
race
of
the
individual),
but
the
government
agencies
and
the
courts
have
ruled
that
such
practice
could
be
seen
as
discriminatory.
With
regard
to
your
I-9
forms,
they
should
be
filed
in
a
separate
3-ring
binder
and
filed
alphabetically. Since
the
Immigration
Reform
and
Control
Act
does
not
require
you
to
keep
copies
of
the
documents,
we
recommend
that
copies
of
the
documents
used
to
determine
identity
and
work
authorization
NOT
be
made
and
NOT
be
included
with
the
I-9
forms.
However
-
and
this
is
a
big
HOWEVER
-
BE
SURE
THE
I-9'S
ARE
FILLED
OUT
CORRECTLY
AND
IN
THEIR
ENTIRETY. Also
if
you
hire
employees
with
temporary
work
authorizations,
be
sure
to
have
a
follow-up
system
to
be
sure
that
all
work
authorizations
are
current.
I
hope
this
helps. Let
me
know
if
you
need
additional
information
or
an
audit
of
your
I-9
forms.
Thanks
for
asking
Bob.
Kind
regards,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
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RECORDKEEPING
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QUESTION
FROM: MAGGIE
INDUSTRY: NON-PROFIT
How
long
should
applications
of
people
you
did
not
interview
be
retained? What
about
for
candidates
you
did
interview
but
not
hire? What
about
EEO
Self
Identification
forms?
RESPONSE:
Maggie,
If
you
have
any
funding
coming
from
the
Federal
government,
you
should
keep
applications
and
the
self
identification
forms
for
a
year.
If
not,
you
can
keep
them
for
as
little
as
three
months. However,
with
the
statute
of
limitations
on
the
filing
of
discrimination
charges
being
up
to
one
year,
depending
upon
whether
a
charge
is
filed
with
a
state
or
Federal
agency,
it
is
prudent
to
keep
the
applications
and
the
self
identification
forms
for
a
year.
Thanks
for
using "Ask
Bob". Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
additional
questions.
Kind
regards,
Bob
McKenzie,
President
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VACATION
PAY UPON TERMINATION
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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:30 AM
To: bobm@mckenziehr.com
Subject: Ask Bob
Telephone: 305-555-5555
From: Lou
Question: If an exempt employee is terminated (voluntary or involuntary), is the Employer required to pay out any unused PTO accrual on his/her last check?
RESPONSE:
Lou,
I see that your telephone number area code is 305 which means that you are in South Florida. If the employee in question is also in Florida, then the answer is no- you do not have to pay out unused PTO. However, it is also a good idea to have this policy in writing in a handbook or similar document to avoid any confusion on this.
If the employee is in another state, I would have to know which state the employee was employed to determine if it is required to pay out unused PTO. Some states require that unused Paid Time Off and/or vacation be paid to the employee upon termination. Other states require such payments unless the company has a specific policy stating that unused PTO/vacation will not be paid upon termination.
I hope this helps. Let me know if you have additional questions.
Kind regards,
Bob McKenzie
QUESTION FROM: DIANE
INDUSTRY:
NON-PROFIT
If
our
employee
handbook
states
the
employee
is
to
give
two
weeks
notice
prior
to
resignation
but
instead
gives
less
than
the
stated
notice,
do
we
have
to
pay
them
vacation
pay
in
their
final
paycheck? Thank
you.
RESPONSE:
Diane,
In
the
state
of
Florida,
you
are
not
required
to
pay
out
vacation
when
someone
leaves
your
company. However,
if
your
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